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How much should a new boiler cost?

This is a sore point amongst responsible heating engineers, so this page is a bit of a rant at first.

Although I only do repairs these days, I still regularly get enquiries for new boilers. People try to persuade me to do theirs, telling me all they want is a 'simple boiler swap'.

Unfortunately, the simple 'boiler swap' no longer exists. Not legally anyway. Fitting  a new boiler means complying with an avalanche of restrictive rules, regulations and instructions, and many of these are EXPENSIVE to observe. The net result is that my quotation for a fully compliant replacement boiler makes me look as though I am trying to rip off my customer, when I'm not. The potential new customer remains suspicious particularly when they have another estimate for half the price from someone willing to take all the short cuts.

The other problem that crops up is the 'cowboy customer'. The one who says they don't care about the regulations and asks me to do a quote ignoring the regs and doing it the cheap way, because they don't mind if it is going to save them bags of money. Well I care about the regulations. I'm the one being asked to commit the offences, and I just don't do it. What would be the point (apart from to get the work)?

OK, rant over. Now here are the main requirements which can be expensive to meet and are often ignored:

1) Condensing boilers are compulsory under the Building Regulations in most situations. They cost 100-200 more to buy than their non-condensing equivalent, and they also need a drain connection to carry away the condensate they produce. This can be trivial to install or a major task adding a day or more to the work. Sometimes moving the boiler to a different location in the house is the only way to achieve the drain connection. All this is avoided by ignoring the Building Regulations and fitting a non-condensing boiler instead.

Potential cost saving from not fitting a condensing boiler: Anything from 100 to 1,000.

2) 'Energy-efficient' controls are now compulsory under the Building Regulations. Most existing boilers are half way there with thermostatic control of both heating and hot water but separate temperature control of the sleeping areas is now required. This can be acheived by fitting thermostatic radiator valves in the bedrooms, but conversion to 'fully pumped' pipework format is necessary unless already installed.

Potential cost saving from not fitting energy-efficient controls: Anything from 0 to 600.

3) A new gas supply pipe is usually necessary to comply with the latest HSE and Gas Safe Register guidelines on permissible pressure drops between the gas meter and the appliance. We are now allowed only 1mbar pressure drop, and this means most existing gas supply pipes are too small. A new boiler will usually work perfectly well connected to the existing pipe with a pressure drop of 3 or 4 mbar, but to comply with this new guidance a new, larger gas supply pipe usually has to be installed all the way from the meter to the new boiler. When boiler and meter are on opposite sides of the house this can add days of work, without even taking into account re-instatement of disrupted decorations etc. 

Potential cost saving by re-using existing gas supply pipe: 0 to 1,000

4) Power flushing. Virtually all boiler manufacturers demand their boilers are connected to clean heating systems, and decline to accept warranty claims for failures caused by sludge or corrosion deposits in the circulating water. This means cleansing the existing radiator system before connecting the new boiler. Powerflushing is the usual way to do this and it adds about a day's work to power flush the average heating system.

Cost saving by not powerflushing (including chemicals): Around 60 per radiator. 480 on a typical eight-rad system.

5) Electrical wiring in kitchen. The Building Regulations effectively require all wiring in kitchens (apart from repairs) to be carried out by qualified electricians. Very few heating engineers are formally qualified to carry out electrical work so compliance means employing a separate electrician to connect up the boiler if installed in the kitchen. The problem with employing an electrician is that he will insist the installation is brought up to current safe electrical standards, while the plumber would have just put the same wire that fed the old boiler back into the new one.

Probable cost saving for NOT employing electrician, 100 to 400.

6) Pump over-run wiring. Condensing boilers have a device built into them to control the pump, keeping it running for a few minutes after the burners have shut down (to distribute the residual heat and protect the fragile high-performance heat exchanger, in case you were interested). This means running an extra cable from the boiler location to the pump location (usually next to the hot water cylinder upstairs in the airing cupboard). Installing this extra cable can be time consuming and disruptive to carpets and decorations. Fitting certain non-condensing boilers instead sidesteps this requirement, or the customer probably wouldn't notice if the installer didn't bother to connect up the pump over-run (until the heat exchanger fails a year later, that is).

Possible cost saving for not installing pump over-run wiring: 100 to 1,000.

7) Post-installation cleansing and corrosion inhibiting. Central heating systems slowly corrode on the inside unless corrosion inhibitor is added to the circulating water, creating a black sludge that blocks heat exchangers, radiators, pipes, and generally causes a variety of problems. A dose of decent quality inhibitor costs around 15, but leaving it out won't show up for many years, by which time the name of the offending installer will have been long forgotten. The corrosion effect is accelerated if the 'post installation cleanse' is missed out. This is a quick cleanse to remove the flux residues left by the soldering process used in the installation of the new boiler pipe connections. Again, no-one will know if it is skipped, until a few years later when the corrosion problems begin early.

 Possible cost saving for leaving out the post installation cleanse and corrosion inhibitor: around 100.

8) Gas Work Notification. This is a compulsory 'service' originally introduced by CORGI. Gas installers are now obliged to provide Gas Safe Register with details of every gas appliance appliance installed, along with other information including the customer name and address. Gas Safe Register then undertake to provide the customer with a document certifying that the work has been carried out in accordance with the Gas Regulations and the Building Regulations. If you don't receive the Gas Safe Register certificate, then your installation probably wasn't notified, possibly because some of the shortcuts listed above were taken. 

There are plenty of other short-cuts, but these are the primary and most common ones. 

OK, I still haven't said how much a new boiler should cost ;-) Well.... a cheap and cheerful boiler from B&Q or similar is about 400. A day's work to fit it, taking all available short cuts will be about the same, so 800, roughly.

Doing the job properly, by the book, I'd suggest results in a typical bill of 3,000 or more, but subject to wide variation. 

Hope that helps.....

 

 

 

 

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