Home

Boilers:

Boiler types
New boiler?

New boiler cost?

Condensing boilers
Combi boilers
Boiler servicing
What is "SEDBUK"?
Boiler descaling

Boiler Reviews

 

Central heating:

How does it work?
Pipework layouts
Open-vented or sealed?
Balancing
Thermostatic valves
Warm air heating

 
Unusual boilers:
PulsaCoil, BoilerMate
  & other thermal stores

Electric 'flow boilers'

Range & Potterton PowerMax

Ideal iStor

 

 
Hot water:
Four types of HW system

 

 

Miscellaneous:

Avoiding the rogues
Plumbers not turning up
Building Regulations
Common faults
Dangerous appliances
Mains hot water
DIY gas work
The Gas Regulations
Plumber or Heating Engineer?

 

 

Links:

Useful links

 

 

Why use me?

Here's Why!

 

 

Your feedback please...

Read visitors' comments
Add your own

 

 
 
Find recommended
 local tradesmen in
The Directory of Excellence 

 
 
 
 
 
 

Do I still fit  bathrooms?


My old bathrooms website is here. Beware, it is an old site and I don't maintain it. Some of the info will be out of date.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

           
         
 

Potterton Suprima 30 - 80, and 30L -80L...

The Suprima comes in a wide variety of versions, issues and sizes. These comments are broad-brush comments about the original Suprimas from the late '90s. In particular they do not apply to the Suprima 120 (a completely different boiler inside the same case), or current Suprima range, which are condensing boilers.

 

The Suprima a strikingly small boiler. Neat and compact with the controls hidden behind an unusual vertical hinged panel on the right hand side.

 

 

I like the Suprima. It's a classic boiler from the 1990's. It's fully electronic (i.e. no pilot light), fan-flued, cast-iron heat exchanger, small and quiet, extremely quick and simple to service, and easy to fault-diagnose and repair. Is it a 'regular' boiler and does not come in a combi version.

Fuel efficiency is quoted on the SEDBUK database as between 76.6% and 78.7% depending on the exact model you have, so pretty good for a non-condensing boiler.

It was a very successful product for Potterton, and was only killed off by the change in Building Regulations making condensing boilers compulsory.

As the model had grown older though a major drawback has become clear. it's electronic control board is the weak point and VERY prone to failure. Failure of the original board presents as the boiler 'locking out' and needing to have the RESET button pressed. This will happen occasionally at first, then become more and more frequent until the user is driven to call an engineer.

 A number of board redesigns failed to fix this problem and a complete redesign of the control board was undertaken. The current replacement board is an upgrade kit that replaces the metal chassis and the whole wiring loom, and is shockingly expensive. 

Sadly, the new board seems no more reliable than the old versions. The new board (now made by Siemens) seems to fail in a different way. The boiler starts and appears to run correctly, but shuts down again long before the selected water temperature has been reached. The boiler produces warm water, but rarely HOT. Occasionally it will run up to full temperature but most of the time it shuts off prematurely. Some users report 'short-cycling' too, where the boiler fires for just a few seconds, shuts down for a short while, fires again, shuts down, etc etc. The fix for this is yet another new control board.

The Suprima suffers from no other major faults. I encounter the occasional gas valve failure or thermistor (heat sensor) failure, and I've seen three leaking heat exchangers, but otherwise if I get a call to repair a Suprima I can be reasonably certain it will be a circuit board failure. It will be a superb boiler if they ever sort out the electronics!

 

 

 

Contact me...
Click here
 
 

 

Home - CORGI - The Institute of Plumbing